President Bush’s decision was justified
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Ord O. Ely
Published: August 10, 2008
I have done my homework. In early July, Canada received a final shipment of 550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium from Iraq.
That is enough yellowcake to make 142 atomic bombs. The best part being the fact that President George W. Bush thus prevented Saddam Hussein from having such WMDs. Thank you President Bush.
Now the liberals have a lot of their own homework to do.
ORD O. ELY
Woodbridge
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Posted by ( mmarin ) on August 12, 2008 at 3:55 pm
jVa,
A personal attack is uncalled for. Especially considering I have not done so.
Congress has the power to declare war and to fund a war. How is that statement wrong? Pelosi is the Speaker of the House and can set the agenda of the House. She can easily put up a vote for stopping funding - something many dems had been voted into office just a year or so ago to do and did not - but she knows that at the end of the day doing so would make the democratic party ripe for attack especially during a presidential election year.
As for having the votes to actually pull that off - that’s her job isn’t? To rally her party, set the agenda and make something happen, is it not?
Bare in mind there is nothing factually incorrect with what I said.
You or others may think this is ‘Bushs War’ but you fail to realize that Bush can’t goto war without Congress and so far the democractically controlled Congress is giving the green light.
At most Bush can send in the Marine’s but a protracted engagement of military forces requires Congress to sign off on it. It requires HER approval.
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Posted by ( jVA ) on August 12, 2008 at 12:49 pm
“It’s unlikely that the Democrats can pull that large a vote in either body at this time to stop the war, over a presidential veto. “
Unlikely is putting it mildly. A snowball’s chance is more like it.
But that won’t stop the Limbaugh-wing of the GOP from proudly waving their ignorant flags and declaring that Nancy Pelosi somehow could single-handedly turn off the Iraq war if she had a mind to. This is what happens when your understanding of politics is limited to what you heard from Sean Hannity last night.
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Posted by ( rafaelva ) on August 12, 2008 at 9:59 am
So true, a veto override requires a two thirds majority in both houses.
291 votes in the House, and 67 in the Senate. It’s unlikely that the Democrats can pull that large a vote in either body at this time to stop the war, over a presidential veto.
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Posted by ( jVA ) on August 12, 2008 at 8:28 am
“If Pelosi wants to shut down the war, she can. “
Please explain how Pelosi and the Democrats currently have enough votes to end the war and override the President’s veto.
You can’t? Oh that’s right, that’s because they actually don’t have enough votes right now to end the war.
So you either a) don’t know what you’re talking about, b) didn’t pass 12th grade government class, or c) you just decided to lie outright and hope nobody noticed.
Sorry but this is still Bush’s war.
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Posted by ( RonCharest ) on August 11, 2008 at 4:00 pm
“Thank you President Bush” for:
- The deaths of 4,139 American soldiers
- Over 100,000 American Soldiers wounded
- The deaths of as many as 1,252,595 Iraqi civilians
(http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/)
- Spending $565,922,600,000 dollars to date (or $121,000 per person, $484,000 per family of 4 in the US)
(http://zfacts.com/p/447.html)
- The ultimate cost of the war estimated at 1 Trillion Dollars or even higher
(http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/08/01/analysis_says_war_could_cost_1_trillion/)
- The destruction of American Military Power and loss of ability to respond to new threats, such as the Russian Invasion of Georgia.
Yes indeed, “Thank you President Bush.“
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Posted by ( mmarin ) on August 11, 2008 at 3:00 pm
If Pelosi wants to shut down the war, she can.
Only Congress can appropriate funding and declare war. So, technically this is now Pelosi’s war.
But, I think even the democrats understand that there may be a valid reason for us being in the Middle East at this moment in time.
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Posted by ( blue_doggette ) on August 11, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Students have been known to receive an F on their homework. Don’t you think if this were true, every news station from alpha to omega would be publicizing the discovery of WMD?
I agree with raywilliams. Get a life. I may have been born at night but it wasn’t last night.
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Posted by ( Sammy B ) on August 11, 2008 at 12:18 pm
The details of this story can be found at http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/05/world/main4235028.shtml. The story also notes that there is no evidence of any yellowcake dating from after 1991. It also notes that in the current state the yellowcake is not potent enough for a nuclear weapon or even a severely damaging radiological dispersal weapon (the so-called “dirty bomb”). It certainly could be enriched to such a state, but had Saddam been pursuing WMDs as actively as the Bush administration reported in its effort to sell the war, we would have found evidence of such enrichment rather than a decade-plus stockpile of unenriched yellowcake. We did eliminate a threat by removing Saddam, but given that his WMD program had long since plateaued, I do not think it has been worth the cost in money, geopolitical influence and respect and, above all, lives. Iran and North Korea are much further along their WMD programs than Saddam ever was, the Taliban is still a threat to Afghanistan’s security nearly seven years after its ouster from power and we are mired in the aftermath of an invasion whose primary casus belli was that Bush thought it a sexy target.
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Posted by ( Charlie ) on August 11, 2008 at 11:44 am
Maybe you should do your homework. tha is only one one component, not a WMD. The Bush liars swore they knew exactly where the WMD’s are in Iraq, which they did not. Manuipulated the CIA, threatened allies to cooperate or else face possible sanctions and other reprisals. 953 lies were told, many the same lie over and over. So please do your homework properly.
Its been proven without a doubt the the US Government conspired to mislead the public about Iraq and its capapbilities, and many of these lies have been exposed over the last 7 years. If this were any other country that had invaded Iraq, the US would have come to the rescue and had the leadership captured and tried for warcrimes.
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Posted by ( rafaelva ) on August 11, 2008 at 11:15 am
Yep! that’s good homework, lemme see:
“http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/07/the_550_tons_of_yellowcake.html”
Like the article says, it is old news,
the stockpile was IEAC inspected up until 2003, when the Marines entered the site, and broke the IEAC Seals.
Where did it come from?
Portugal 1980 138,098 tonnes
1982 148,348 tonnes
Niger 1981 199.900 tonnes
no record of where the balance came from.
Also 40,000+ kilograms of uranium oxide in various forms, purchased from
various countries. Yellow Cake in and of itself does not a bomb make. There’s a lot of other infrastructure needed to make a bomb, it did not exist.
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