Some ideas about ‘illegals’ and what to do
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Ruben Pineda
Published: March 22, 2008
“Illegals” being criminals may be partially true if you take all the gang violence, but then all races are involved in this stereotype, since gangs of all races pollute this community. Hispanics are just more infamous in being gangsters.
I totally agree we should deport those here illegally that are doing crimes and involved in gangs, because there are already too many legal criminals. I know many ex-gang members that are also “illegal,” but they have left those gang-banging mentalities back in Mexico.
They have come to work and made money. They don’t expect to stay in this country because they left their lives back in Mexico. Anti-illegal immigrants have no sympathy for “illegals,” but understand that many leave their families to be able to put food on their table and clothes on their backs. Understand that a day of work here is equivalent to a week of pay in Mexico.
Mexico’s government has always welcomed Americans and continues to welcome them into their country. Americans living in Mexico have provided a lot to Mexico’s economy, and vice-versa.
Mexico is just more accepting. Americans regularly vacation in Mexico, and living in Mexico isn’t half-bad when you have money.
You could deport all “illegals” for just being illegal, but that’s just giving them a free plane ticket back to their country. A fellow “illegal” friend once got a broken taillight ticket and having no license due to his illegal status had to pay over $900 in court costs. “Illegals” are too valuable for the Police Department to just “deport them all.”
Anti-illegal immigrants are also tired of “‘illegals’ living 30 to a house,” but if you’re not the one living there, why do you speak? We come because we’re poor, not because we got it made in our homeland and want to try it here.
They like to act like “30 to a house” is comfortable, since those living in those houses are never the ones complaining.
If 30 people did actually live in a house, everybody couldn’t possibly be “illegal.”
Yet, we continue to birth nothing but “anchor babies that do nothing but dumb down our school system.” This system may have us destined to fail, but you would be surprised at how many Hispanics have made it. But even if “illegals” make it out of high school, it doesn’t do any good if Virginia’s politicians oppose a college education for them. Forget E.S.L., let smaller children that can’t speak
English learn with English-speaking students, and within a year or two, they will speak better than your children.
RUBEN PINEDA
Manassas
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Posted by ( raywilliams ) on March 26, 2008 at 6:05 am
Well, fedup, I currently have 5 immigrants on my payroll that I sponsered for their Green Cards. One has been with me for 18 years, owns a nice home with two bilingual children. Another has been with me for 9 years, owns a nice home in Culpeper (perhaps your neighbor!) with a two-car garage so his Cadillac stays safe and dry overnight. The others own their own homes and one also owns rental property.
I am sorry your business failed but I’m sure that was due to your being a poor manager rather than your employees sending a few bucks home to help their families. Think about it. How are these people able to have homes, own cars, eat and clothe themselves and still have money to send home, yet Americans are in credit card debt up to their necks trying to survive? I’m sure you tried to live the American dream and got burnt and are now angry, so you blame others. Take a hard look in the mirror and wonder why others suceed and you failed. Perhaps you’ll find the haven you’re looking for in West Virginia.
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Posted by ( fedupinculpeper ) on March 24, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Ray you are fool, looking through rose colored glasses. Granting amnesty to one CITIZEN is not even in the same ball park as granting amnesty to 13 million plus who shouldn’t even be here! Regan tried the amnesty thing and finally admitted it failed miserably. If you grant it carte blanche you only open the flood gates to tsunami level. Why don’t you have any support for your own country? Why do you want 10 illegals using the same SSN and living 20 to a house to send money back to their home country?
I told you I had 4 Mexicans working for me for 5 years, all had permanent resident cards but not ONE had any intention of staying here. They only wanted to make enough to start a business in Mexico or pay off a farm. If you think they show ANY loyalty to this country you are sadly mistaken.
Ok, pick one illegal and sponsor him/her to become legal. If every pro-illegal supporter sponsored one illegal it would solve the problem. 10 to 1 you won’t. You don’t want to be responsible for them for 5 years. I was, what about you?
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Posted by ( zcxnissan ) on March 24, 2008 at 5:17 pm
By the way Ray the President commuted Libby’s sentence he never granted him a pardon. Chris Cummings
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Posted by ( zcxnissan ) on March 24, 2008 at 5:13 pm
An illegal alien day laborer is still here illegally no matter whether you call him an undocumented worker or not. If they would come here the right way like my ancestors this whole illegal thing would not be the major issue it is. Mr. Jacobsen i do not like employers taking advantage of illegal aliens for jobs as well as paying less than minimum wage as well as firing, laying off or reducing wages of legal immigrants. I would hope you at least agree on that sensible point. A mugger who accosts you on the street is certainly doing something illegal, however if he is a legal citizen he has to suffer the consequences of US law. Why must illegal aliens be following different rules? Isn’t that racism and a double standard? Capture and release ehh Gary??? Chris Cummings
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Posted by ( raywilliams ) on March 24, 2008 at 4:31 pm
So again I say - grant amnesty and wave the magic legal-wand over someone and suddenly all is good. It is well documented President Bush gave a pardon (ok, granted clemency) to Scooter Libby, a convicted felon. If we keep tossing “illegal” in the same catagory as “criminal” we can certainly offer the same pardon/clemency to those that arn’t “harmful” to society, you know, like Scooter.
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Posted by ( fedupinculpeper ) on March 24, 2008 at 4:03 pm
wait till your identity is stolen, just to work, wait till the IRS contacts you because you owe money you ‘wages’ you didn’t earn, wait till you are in a car accident with an uninsured illegal, remember driving is NOT a right it is a privilage. WE have more than enough home grown crime to deal with, without having to deal with ILLEGALS. Go to the jail and find out just how many inmates are hispanic, now not all of them will be illegal but the majority will be. Go ask anyone who has been accosted by one and say ah gee they are just doing the work American’s don’t want to do. I wonder if that isn’t the reason our wages are dropping. Gary you are an expert on hiring illegal painters. I bet the legal painters just LOVE you.
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Posted by ( Grant Gary Jacobsen ) on March 24, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Why do some writers insist on tossing around terms like “illegal” and “invasion”? A mugger who accosts me on the street at night is certainly doing something illegal, but an undocumented day worker trying to earn money for his family is in quite another category.
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Posted by ( fedupinculpeper ) on March 24, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Long before this invasion started, I have employed Hispanics. I had four work for me for over 5 years, all legal. BTW I am an immigrant too, What I OBJECT to is the contemptible lack of all respect for the law. You can’t just come here to work, just because you can walk here. You can’t come over and drop babies here just because you sneak in 8-9 months pregnant. You can’t come here, pay $200.00 in the DC area and steal someone’s identity so you can work. YOU can bend over and do what you like, I will not allow ANYONE to cheapen what I had to go through to get here as a legal immigrant or natural citizen. WE all need to follow rules. Starting with the most basic, come here legally and be welcomed with open arms. Don’t slither in and hide in the shadows.
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Posted by ( raywilliams ) on March 24, 2008 at 12:06 pm
dear fedupinculpeper: exactly WHAT are you fed up with - other than illegal being illegal? The music, language, foods, skin color, lack of a #3 on their back window? I take some solice that the immigrants have driven you from PWC to Culpeper.
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Posted by ( fedupinculpeper ) on March 24, 2008 at 7:52 am
An illegal alien is guilty of committing a civil crime. YOU on the other had by aiding and abetting an illegal alien are committing a FELONY. I guess you take pride in being a criminal.
What would you say if the US adopted the Mexican Constitution? According to you fair is fair right?
In brief, the Mexican Constitution states that:
- Immigrants and foreign visitors are banned from public political discourse.
- Immigrants and foreigners are denied certain basic property rights.
- Immigrants are denied equal employment rights.
- Immigrants and naturalized citizens will never be treated as real Mexican citizens.
- Immigrants and naturalized citizens are not to be trusted in public service.
- Immigrants and naturalized citizens may never become members of the clergy.
- Private citizens may make citizens arrests of lawbreakers (i.e., illegal immigrants) and hand them to the authorities.
- Immigrants may be expelled from Mexico for any reason and without due process (emphasis Bleeding America’s).
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