Who has experience and who doesn’t
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Tim Singstock
Published: May 29, 2008
There is an elephant in the room in this year’s presidential campaign. It is experience and John McCain has got it. Comparing his experience to Barrack Obama’s is like comparing an elephant to a shrew. Is there really anyone in America today who is more prepared than John McCain? Go with the elephant in November.
TIM SINGSTOCK
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Posted by ( RonCharest ) on June 03, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Barnun,
Your quote “you like to pick liberally written articles that do not like McCain” is amusing and pinpoints the core of Conservative philosophy. Reality has a well-known Liberal bias, and so naturally Conservatives chose to ignore any Reality which might contradict their pre-determined world-view.
I personally think this is great! Keep ignoring reality, believe what you choose to believe, and collect ever more ponies! Meanwhile, back in the Reality-Based community, us liberals will fact the facts as they are, fight amongst us, come to a resolution, and work to resolve the issues and make life better for all, including the Conservatives sitting on the sidelines laughing.
Of course, after November, with Pres Obama and expanded Democratic majorities in both houses of Congress, and more Democrats in state and local governments, resolving issues and ignoring Conservatives will be so much easier.
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Posted by ( jVA ) on June 03, 2008 at 10:29 am
“jVa, your comparison of the founders of google are like comparing apples and frogs.“
I get what you’re trying to say barnun, but I don’t think I’m remotely buying it. If the founders of google had been handed the keys to microsoft would they have been any less intelligent? Any less innovative? One could argue that with more resources, they might have been more successful, more quickly. These are sharp innovative guys with vision and leadership. End of story.
There are plenty of experienced bureaucrats in DC to keep the government running. I’m not worried about that. I would want Obama to surround himself with alot of intelligent, experienced advisors and give some details ahead of time of who those people might be. (A guy like Joe Biden comes to mind.) But I’m very comfortable and excited about his potential as a LEADER.
“I do beleive the best qualified for either side are no longer in the race. “
True. Look at poor Mitt Romney. A pretty impressive guy and arguably the most deserving Republican in the bunch. Unfortunately didn’t have the right views on Jesus to be the GOP nominee. Thank goodness we don’t choose people for other important jobs based on how often they claim to pray each day.
“at least 50% of american oppose the current abortion laws”
That’s a clever turn of phrase, but according to the most recent CNN/Gallup poll 5/8/08, 28% of Americans want abortion legal under any circumstance and 54% want it legal under certain conditions. So yeah 54% oppose the current laws as they stand. Not quite the same thing as calling to overturn Roe v Wade.
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Posted by ( barnun ) on June 02, 2008 at 3:44 pm
jVa, your comparison of the founders of google are like comparing apples and frogs. The founders of google started with nothing and had nothing to lose. See the difference ? Ron, i read a couple of your links. so, you’re upset the McCain joined an effort to support a plan developed under the clinton administration to do something about social security, while no past president has done anything except to rob the social security bank accounts. ALL prior presidents are guilty. ANY financial advisor would tell you to start a 401k account at a young age. Also, you like to pick liberally written articles that do not like McCain. Yes he opposed the GI bill. No he is not against the idea, just that particular bill. Another link mentions that he is against abortion. So ? the president doesnt get to decide on that anyway ? at least 50% of american oppose the current abortion laws. Ray, Obama Really scares me. unfortunately we do not get the choice of a no vote to wipe the slate clean and start over with new candidates. I do beleive the best qualified for either side are no longer in the race.
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Posted by ( raywilliams ) on May 30, 2008 at 4:38 pm
If one doesn’t learn from their past experiences, does simply growing old make them better? John W. McBush scares me.
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Posted by ( jVA ) on May 30, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Nice, Ron. Here’s Rupert Murdoch himself on McCain:
“He’s a patriot. But he’s unpredictable. Doesn’t seem to know much about the economy. He has been in Congress a long time, and you have to make a lot of compromises. So what’s he really stand for? . . . I think he has a lot of problems.“
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Posted by ( RonCharest ) on May 30, 2008 at 11:53 am
You’re correct that McCain has much more experience. But is it the experience we really need? Four more years emulating Bush’s eight disasterous years expereience?
Here are nine recent actual news headlines that pretty much show McCain’s experience. I report, you decide:
1—“John McCain Votes to Filibuster Minimum Wage Hike”
An AOL News account on McCain filibustering the popular the minimum wage increase.
2—“McCain housing policy shaped by lobbyist”
This MSNBC article emphasizes how corporate special interests have formed McCain’s economic policy.
3—“Bush, McCain plug Social Security”
A Seattle Times news article. Seniors hate Bush’s plan to privatize Social Security and McCain offers more of the same.
4—“McCain blasts Obama’s and Clinton’s attacks on NAFTA”
This is an LA Times article which ties McCain to support for NAFTA.
5—“McCain in NH: Would Be “Fine” To Keep Troops in Iraq for “A Hundred Years” “
Mother Jones article and is considered the top article explaining and reporting this quote.
6—“McCain: Bush right to veto kids health insurance expansion”
CNN news article supporting McCains support for Bush’s S Chip veto
7—“Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition”
A Salon.com explaining McCain’s opposition to the Webb GI Bill, which is also Bush’s position.
8—“McCain says overturn the law that legalized abortion”
USA Today news article
9—“McCain Defends Bush’s Iraq Strategy”
CBS News news article
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Posted by ( jVA ) on May 30, 2008 at 8:52 am
Right! Good old John McCain has a hundred years of experience. And yet with all of that wealth of experience McCain has voted with Bush 90% of the time. In 2008? 100% of his votes have been cast with Bush. How do we move the country forward with a guy who apparantly thinks Bush has done a heckuva job?
The GOP is going to be clinging to “experience” (read: I’ve been in the senate for a long, long, long, long time) all through this campaign because McCain is a sell out. Everybody who wants a break from Bush/Cheney (read: 75% of the country) knows that McCain is not a viable option.
Just a final thought, when Republicans bring up “experience” to sell their stale candidate, I’m reminded of Larry Page and Sergey Brin. Larry and Sergey founded Google Inc. before they were 30 years old and began a decade of kicking the “experienced” folks at places like Microsoft around. Experience is great. But there is a lot more to be said for vision, leadership and plain old smarts.
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Posted by ( phdee ) on May 30, 2008 at 8:08 am
In a previous presidential compaign, the Bush team alleged McCain was mentally ill? Is this still true?
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Posted by ( RonCharest ) on May 30, 2008 at 5:19 am
Mr. Singstock, you are absolutely correct. Sen McCain has a huge amount of experience. However, I’m not sure it’s the kind of experience we need. Here’s a short list of recent news articles describing his experience:
John McCain Votes to Filibuster Minimum Wage Hike
http://news.aol.com/elections-blog/2007/01/24/john-mccain-votes-to-filibuster-minimum-wage-hike/
McCain housing policy shaped by lobbyist
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24844889
Bush, McCain plug Social Security
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002216444_bush23.html
McCain blasts Obama’s and Clinton’s attacks on NAFTA
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/mar/01/nation/na-mccain1
McCain in NH: Would Be “Fine” To Keep Troops in Iraq for “A Hundred Years”
http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/01/6735_mccain_in_nh_wo.html
McCain: Bush right to veto kids health insurance expansion
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/03/mccain.interview/
Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/05/22/gi_bill/index.html
McCain says overturn the law that legalized abortion
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-02-19-mccain-roe_x.htm
McCain Defends Bush’s Iraq Strategy
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/12/ap/politics/mainD8MJRGCO0.shtml
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