Writer not surprised about Letiecq

Posted by ( MikeG ) on March 15, 2008 at 10:29 am

Phdee, you exhibit the standard response of someone who has nothing of value to say, and certainly nothing worth pointing out as contributing to this dialogue.  You can’t think of anything intelligent to say?  Start flinging names and slurs.  So typical.

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Posted by ( k.o. ) on March 14, 2008 at 12:59 pm

Thanks MikeG, for so eloquently explaining the error of Ms. Reynolds’ ways. The MJM appears to be that vehicle of propaganda, repeating misinformation until the masses start accepting it as truth. Using her logic, I guess HSM is to blame for the overcrowding & unsanitary conditions many of the illegals live in. (I’m still waiting for her to answer my questions.)

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Posted by ( MikeG ) on March 14, 2008 at 9:44 am

Jean’s post doesn’t surprise me.  She’s typical of one who likes to employ one of the oldest sleights of hand that ever existed: distract your intended audience from the core issue by labeling others who disagree with you as hate mongers, fascists, baby killers, rapists, pedophiles; whatever it takes.  In this way she can demonize in one swipe at her <enter> key all those who oppose the burgeoning influx of illegal aliens to this country.
It’s not going to work, dear.  You are including yourself in the minority, here, so if the best you have to offer is to obfuscate and confuse, then obfuscate away. 
It has already been demonstrated by democratic means that a majority of people in this region are not only upset and worried about the effects of illegal aliens in our community, but who are demanding that action be taken by their elected representatives to correct the situation.  Trying to compare those of us who are concerned and who are voicing our concern in forums such as this with Hitler is the basest form of propagandistic hyperbole, totally without merit, and below the point to even deserve basic respect.  Unlike the Jews, who were totally innocent victims of a genocidal maniac’s policies, the illegal aliens in this country aren’t being hounded and forced into ghettos and concentration and extermination camps.  To suggest such a comparison is nothing more than an insult on so many levels, and I would put to you that you owe everyone an apology.
The fact that Help Save Manassas is not and should not be designated a hate group should be self evident.  How can you condemn a man and a group of supporters who have done nothing more than bring attention to the seriousness of the illegal alien situation in this region, in a peaceful manner I might add.  Controversy often brings confrontation, that is true; but HSM has not been, to my knowledge, involved in any such situations or acts.  That their views may not sit well with you is, well, not that important.  They are like the majority of us; concerned about the debilitating effects illegal aliens have had and continue to have on our way of life, our economy, our public schools and hospitals, to mention only a few.  Unlike most of us, however, they have elected to put themselves in the public eye by associating themselves openly with this controversial issue.  While I myself am not associated with HSM, and I don’t know Mr. Letiecq, I admire their courage and their convictions in the face of true hate mongers such as yourself.
On the subject of escalating or diminishing crime rates, I find your data as inconclusive on two fronts.  First, a diminishing crime rate might reflect the rate relevant to the public at large, but probably not the illegal alien community who are more likely to not report a crime in the event that they get caught up in the deportation process.  In other words, the illegal alien community might be experiencing an increase in crime.  But it’s not difficult to see the effects of crime within the illegal alien community, especially when you review the numbers of illegals who are only waiting in prison to finish their sentences before being deported.
Yes, I’m sure there are hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens in this country who arrived here legally on student visas, only to let them expire and never leave, and yes, we’re all aware that these people come from dozens of countries on every continent in the world.  Illegal is illegal, wherever they come from.  It changes nothing if they’re Hispanic, African, Chinese, Caucasian, whatever.  They are all here illegally and should not be allowed to stay.  More often than not, they probably used the student visa process dishonestly in the first place, thereby cheating countless others who truly deserved those student visas and couldn’t get them as a result.  These people should be located, taken into custody, and deported; it’s only logical.  There is probably no other country in the world with the problems with illegal aliens such as we have here.  Why is that, do you think?  I’ll tell you.  Other countries actually INSIST on people being properly documented in order to remain in their country.  Get caught without papers in most of them, and you’d be glad if all they did was deport you!
So there’s my rant, dear, and in closing I could point a little obfuscation your way, as well.  Why do you suppose Hitler was so effective in getting his policies by everyone?  Why through the use of someone even more talented than you, named Joseph Goebbels, his chief propaganda minister!  Interesting, that, hey?

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Posted by ( k.o. ) on March 14, 2008 at 8:44 am

Ms. Reynolds, why don’t you check your “facts” before spewing hatred yourself. Can you identify the venomous language you quote from LTE’s as actually coming from HSM members? Do you not know that over 1/2 of 2007 murders in PWC were committed by illegal aliens (I have not checked their ancestry). Twenty percent of the inmates being held in our jail are illegal? Where in the world did you get the idea that HSM is against Latinos? It is battling illegal immigration, but the majority of those speaking at the marathon BOCS meeting were Latino - is that the fault of HSM?

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