Will Prince William County turn blue?
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By Cheryl Chumley
Published: October 12, 2008
Virginia’s red-state status is in question. Come close of polls Nov. 4, the Commonwealth and historically Republican Prince William County will turn the corner into staunch Democrat territory.
At least that’s what some surveys, election analysts and major media outlets are reporting.
On the congressional front, Larry Sabato, director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia, doesn’t even attempt a show of reserve that
Virginia is a shoo-in for the Democratic Party this year. He all but calls Mark Warner — candidate for the Senate seat being vacated by unrelated Republican John Warner — the winner in his Oct. 2 Crystal Ball analysis.
“Mark Warner will succeed the retiring John Warner in a landslide for Democrats,” Sabato opines. “Democrats will control the governorship and both Senate seats for the first time since January 1970. Virginia’s years as a Republican stronghold are well over.”
Do the Republicans know this? Not publicly.
Senate opponent Jim Gilmore says the party hasn’t abandoned Virginia. The fact that he hasn’t campaigned in voter-rich Prince William County since July; has raised but a million, give or take, to Warner’s nine; and hasn’t received even press release coverage at the National Republican Senatorial Committee Web site since June, is not indicative of support level, he said at the News and Messenger office last week.
The NRSC is financially broke, Gilmore said, and a better gauge of his party’s support is to look at the multitude of individual contributions of seated senators.
Perhaps. But to suggest otherwise would seem order-of-the-day. On Oct. 4, for instance, Politico.com cited Republicans as in agreement with Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee spokespeople that the economy has suddenly shifted poll numbers in strong favor of Democratic candidates.
“Republicans fully expect to lose Virginia,” this story reported.
Does that go for the presidential front, too?
While leaning toward Democrats in some congressional and gubernatorial races, Virginia has voted consistently for the Republican presidential candidate since 1964. At the same time, the latest public-opinion tracker Rasmussen Reports from Oct. 6 find Barack Obama leads John McCain statewide, 50 percent to 48 percent. That’s a number that hasn’t changed much in the past couple weeks; the pollster’s Sept. 29 report found Obama leading McCain in Virginia by 50 percent to 47 percent.
And Prince William, with its 214,000-plus registered voters, according to statistics received last week from the county registrar’s office, is expected to play a large role in determining the outcome of this presidential race. Turnout, in fact, is expected to surpass the record high participation of the 1992 Clinton versus Bush I contest, when 89.2 percent of voters in the county cast ballots, voting officials say.
But where that large role will lead in terms of the presidential election is difficult to predict.
On one hand, Prince William’s 360,000-plus population includes a large military presence with a voting block that typically swings Republican. On the other hand, the county also has a large population of blacks. Roughly a fifth of the county’s population, according to 2000 Census Bureau statistics, is comprised of this Democrat-leaning constituency.
Further, look at the county’s illegal immigration policy. Merits to the side, the policy was passed, funded and enforced with majority voter backing, and its continued existence certainly shows a conservative streak among supporters. But to say that conservative presence will translate into votes for McCain at the polls is a different matter. The very same who support the immigration policy in Prince William are also likely feeling disenfranchised and even angered by a state and federal Republican membership that has seemed to turn a blind eye to enacting and enforcing similar strict laws on a wider scale.
And don’t even mention the bailout bill.
If it’s true that the first House vote against the measure came because of the indignant outcry of citizens who reminded politicians of upcoming elections, then the second vote to pass will surely go down in history as the pivotal point at which constituents decided to send the flip-floppers back to civilian life.
Still, elections never turn out as media and analysts predict and just because signs seem to favor Democrats in the state and maybe locale, the fact is history is swollen with mistakes.
Remember 2004, the year Florida was called early for John Kerry — not only erroneously, but also to the chagrin, once again, of some members in the media who had publicly pledged to avoid the exit poll and election night debacle of 2000. Had Florida’s vote count panned, Kerry would have won.
Four years later, and one lesson learned should leave the smart voter ignoring the polls, both leading up to and during election night, regardless of what is being reported.
Staff writer Cheryl Chumley can be reached at 703-670-1907.
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Posted by ( zcxnissan ) on October 16, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Lets please excuse phdee for he can’t accept it when i told him that Obama will probably win. Affirmative action will not be necessary by the time i die. Illegal immigration has no comparison to his racist viewpoints. Illegal immigration is a crime, being of a different race is not. I know that phdee has a hard time differentiating between race and criminality. LOL Chris Cummings
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Posted by ( phdee ) on October 16, 2008 at 7:14 am
jVa et al: One must excuse Cummings; he is having problems. He “see” things, “hears” things, has noises in his head, and from some of his posting on this LTE editor page, it seems he has an ailment where one can’t tell the difference from forward or backward. Yesterday is tody, left is right, truth is a lie, lie is a truth, black is white, the civil rights movement was a racist movement, affirmative action was a setback for blacks’ progress, etc. He needs help badly.
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Posted by ( zcxnissan ) on October 15, 2008 at 5:38 pm
Yet my statements are still true then and now, so much for your college education and your close mindedness. As evidenced by your desperate parting comment. NOVA was an area that was always split in regards to race, some of us were proud to support all races and some of us like yourself try to gloss over history to support one party. George Washington and Abraham Lincoln and many upstanding politicians would be ashamed of your one sided interpretation of history. Southern Democrats hmmm? Sure seems to be a lot of them still in the party. Your opinion is still just an opinion, what is the revised history you have learned in school? Will it be revised even further in the next 4 years? A lie is a lie is a lie is a lie. Are you living a lie? Probably LOL Chris Cummings
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Posted by ( jVA ) on October 15, 2008 at 2:39 pm
I don’t need to spin jack, Chris. I gave you the exact voting record of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and you’re still trying to claim some nonsense. Its ABSOLUTELY clear from the record that the voting was divided regionally - not by party.
Southerners proved to be pro-segregation whether they had a D next to their name or an R. I don’t need any kind of liberal alternative history to back me up. This is high school history 101. Guess you missed that one.
Next time you want to make some lame point like this, try something any 12th grader can’t pick apart.
I’m not reading any follow-up comments on this stupidity. buh-bye!
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Posted by ( zcxnissan ) on October 15, 2008 at 2:22 pm
So no matter how you spin your alternate history JVA their are still more racists in the Democrats ranks, Byrd, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Ferraro, etc. as well as many more Democrats be they northern or southern still voted against the Civil Rights Act. There are too many current and recent past democrats to list. You must believe in a very “liberal history” interpretation of reality. Now thats funny. LOL Chris Cummings
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Posted by ( jVA ) on October 15, 2008 at 8:46 am
“Whats really funny is many more Democrats voted against the Civil Rights
Act in 1964.“
Yeah that’s funny and all, but it wasn’t a party issue. It was a north/south issue. (Big surprise.) Look at how people voted for/against:
The House:
Southern Democrats: 7-87
Southern Republicans: 0-10
Northern Democrats: 145-9
Northern Republicans: 138-24
The Senate version:
Southern Democrats: 1-20
Southern Republicans: 0-1
Northern Democrats: 45-1
Northern Republicans: 27-5
So what is actually funny, Chris, is that 100% of southern Republicans voted against the Civil Rights act. 93% of southern Democrats voted against it. And of course, those Dixiecrats all went on to become the new Republican party anyway.
Nice try at spinning history though.
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Posted by ( zcxnissan ) on October 14, 2008 at 11:20 pm
Whats really funny is many more Democrats voted against the Civil Rights Act in 1964. Despite phdee’s assertions that it is all Republicans that are racist. I find it hard that he completely ignores Hillary and Bill Clinton in their overt and subversive comments about Obama and MLK. Trully racism is alive and well in the Democrat party. Take for example Sen. Byrd for God’s sake he was a Grand Dragon in his 40’s or so, come on now and he is a Democrat. Will you be calling Hillary supporters who vote for McCain racist as well? You want to label me, you might as well try and label my family then. I take complete and utter offense to your racism accusations and i laugh at your feigned anger and i despise your support of illegal immigration which hurts all of us especially blacks, whites, latinos. All means all accept it. The sign is still down, haha. LOL Chris Cummings
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Posted by ( phdee ) on October 14, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Obama has the race issue in Va., especially by closet racist, old, white trash Southerners. They can’t admit they are racists, but when they get in the voting booth, they have the racist belief “I ain’t voting for no n*****“. (Especially one educated.) It will take a few more years before these fossils are gone, alomg with McCain. Let’s not forget Virginia was blue (Democratic) before the desegregation ruling, after which they became Republicans - the Repubs racism better matched theirs.
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Posted by ( zcxnissan ) on October 13, 2008 at 11:22 pm
Voters i hope will vote with their brains and not just the party they support. I for one have stated many times that i will be voting for Warner, Fimian, and not for the top of either ticket. My hunch is Obama will win only because of the economy. If economy bad incumbent party almost always loses. If economy good incumbent party almost always wins. Its the economy stupid. I continue to disagree with both candidates. LOL Chris Cummings
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Posted by ( klasko ) on October 13, 2008 at 4:02 pm
It really irks me when prognosticators and pollsters try to figure out election results before election day. I make it a point to not tell anyone how I’m voting and to skew poll results whenever I can. Having said that, I just want to get this election over with. I am so OVER this 4 year campaign.
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